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September 11, 2007

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Present: President Jack Queen, Vice President Diane Larsen, Secretary Gail Frazar and Member Mark McClure.

Also Present: Building Commissioner Robert Green, Senior Planner Kirk Dakan, Associate Planner Arnold Keene, Consulting Architect Jim Kelley-Markham, Potential Consulting Architect Andrew Wright and Administrative Assistant Jasie Gan.

Absent: Member Paul Slater

The Minutes of the August 7, 2007 meeting were approved as written.

Staff Reports:                       

Robert Green updated the Art Jury on the Inn’s master plan.

Jim Kelley-Markham updated the Art Jury on the new items that have been added to the Association website.

Consent Calendar: A motion was made, seconded and passed to approve the consent calendar.

CONFERENCE ITEMS:

Delicias Restaurant 6106 Paseo Delicias - Awning
Informal review of non Covenant property

The Rancho Santa Fe Art Jury has reviewed the proposed awning at the above address and provided the following comments.

The Art Jury understands that portions of the building are historic and that portions of the building have been modified in a manner that is sympathetic to the original character of the historic building (including exterior detailing).

The Art Jury is not in favor of the currently proposed awning for the following reasons:

  1. The legality of the existing outdoor dining area should be established prior to approval of any awning.
  2. The proposed awning does not integrate with the existing architectural features of the building, namely the wooden eave brackets and window surrounds.
  3. Signs should not be placed on the awning.
  4. The potential exists for temporary “sides” to be placed on the awning. Placement of temporary “sides” would be unsightly in the opinion of the Art Jury.
  5. No information was available on the proposed awning fabric. Material samples should be provided. Reflective, high-sheen materials should be avoided.
  6. A retractable awning which integrates better with the existing architectural features of the building may be more suitable (depending on the design). Such an awning couldbe flat, suspend with rings from cables using a wrought iron frame designed to match the Spanish colonial features of the building. Such a design would further compliment the state designated landmark status of Rancho Santa Fe.
  7. Suitable shade trees could be used in lieu of an awning. This portion of the village is currently deficient in street and shade trees (e.g. Cassia). Trees would enhance the character of the village and restaurant.
  8. Revised plans should be submitted for Art Jury review and comment.

The Art Jury requested that these comments be passed on to the County of San Diego and the San Dieguito Planning Group.

5465 La Glorieta, Property I.D. 33.6.1
LLC (Rosetta) Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (10,226 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (1,183 sq. ft.), Detached Garage (1,134 sq. ft.) Grading, Retaining Walls, Fencing & Walls, Entry Gate/Pilasters, Landscape, Pool/Spa           

Architect John Jensen and Charlie Christ attended the meeting.

The Art Jury made the following comments:

OVERALL COMMENT:

The mass and bulk of the development must be reduced. The proposed size of the development overpowers the site. The property has a substantial number of limiting factors: two street frontages, slope and odd property shape.

  1. As stated above in the “Overall Comment” the size of the development must be reduced.
  2. The Art Jury is in favor of the alternative site plan proposed at the meeting by John Jenson, the applicant’s architect. The proposed alternative would move the main residence further to the west and locate the horse keeping facilities and pasture on the east side of the property towards Paseo Delicias. This alternative site plan would:
    1. Place the residence in a deeper (north to south dimension) area with more room between setbacks.
    2. Move the location of the second story further away from Paseo Delicias.
    3. Move the second story further back from the top-of-slope area on the east side of the property. 
    4. Have the horse keeping physically separated from any adjacent neighbors.
    5. Keep the residence further from the traffic on Paseo Delicias.
    6. Allow greater landscape screening between the residence and Paseo Delicias.
  3. The currently proposed design works with the topography better than the previous submittal.
  4. Enhance the aesthetics and ensure that there is substantial articulation of the street facing façades. The current design along La Glorieta has a linear façade with little articulation and is utilitarian in appearance. 
  5. No further comments regarding the specifics of the architecture will be made at this time until the mass and bulk issue is resolved.
  6. The stable/horse keeping was not indicated on the application and was not noticed; therefore, no analysis or comments are forthcoming on that request. If the applicant  wishes to pursue the horse keeping on this property, the next application must be submitted per the “New Application” deadline so that it may be noticed.
  7. Please submit another Workshop Application.

El Camino del Property I.D. 1.4.6
Norte, LLC (Regan) Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (10,835 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (1,090 sq. ft.), Basement/Tuck-under (3,787 sq. ft.)           

Mr. Regan, Architect Peter Trevino, Contractor John Bianchi and Civil Engineer John Coffey attended the meeting.

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. Please redesign the building.
  2. The proposal should be integrated with the topography in a more aesthetically pleasing manner. More stepping should be incorporated into the building to break up the bulk and integrate the structure better with the terrain. The building should grow out of the terrain as opposed to modifying the terrain extensively to fit the building.
    1. In the absence of stepping within the house, the structure will need to be narrower so that its footprint crosses less topographic fall.
    2. The portion of the house that is most contrary to the topography is the “nook”, southern end of the “family room” and the adjoining covered patio.
  3. Eliminate the grading from the 25% slope areas. Per the Regulatory Code only driveway access and minor intrusions are allowed on 25% slopes. The proposed intrusion onto the 25% slope is substantial. 
  4. Any fill slopes that are required must be as gradual as possible to most closely match the existing terrain.
  5. The building should not be overly deep. Please try to maintain a building thickness of 1 1/2 rooms which reduces the bulk of the building; creates a less bulky roof form and provides more interesting architecture.
    1. Reducing the bulk in the middle of the house would alleviate much of the artificial fill on the south side of the home.
  6. When making changes to the southerly façade, ensure that the revised façade has articulation in the massing. Do not present a broad, undifferentiated façade to the street.
  7. Please do not use the combination of flat roofs with a mansard roof perimeter.
  8. Revise the grading plan to clearly show all of the elevations of each of the existing topographic lines. Some of the lines are missing. 
  9. Investigate subterranean garages to reduce building bulk.
  10. It may be impossible to accommodate all of the Art Jury’s requirements without reducing the overall size of the development. Final judgment regarding the project’s overall size, height and bulk will be determined when the story poles are erected.
  11. Please submit another Workshop Application.

Rancho Cielo Property I.D. 45.2.1
Holdings Corp. Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (9,125 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas
(Blitz) (736 sq. ft.), Basement/Tuck-under (1,060 sq. ft.), Guest House (850 sq. ft.)

Sheldon Blitz and Architect Scott Grunst attended the meeting.

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. Please flip the footprint. The Art Jury believes that flipping the floor plan could eliminate the following comments that the Art Jury has about the current design:
    1. Substantially reduce the length of the long façade facing the intersection.
      1. Eliminate much of the paving in the vicinity of the garages.
    2. Eliminate the circular turnaround.
    3. Relocate the garage doors so that they would be less prominent from the intersection and roadways.
    4. Do not have the two story portion of the home on the side of the house closest to the intersection.
  1. Further reduce the height of the second-story structure on the downhill side. The long ridgeline over the second story should step down with the topography.
  2. Please revise the architecture to be reflective of the submitted image booklet.
    1. The Art Jury is in favor of the architecture represented in the image booklet; however, the currently submitted design is not consistent with the submitted images.
    2. The current design’s form and detailing does not reflect any particular genre other than a generic Mediterranean type with stucco and tile roof.
  3. The stable/horse keeping was not indicated on the application and was not noticed; therefore, no analysis or comments are forthcoming on that request. If the applicant wishes to pursue the horse keeping on this property, the next application must be submitted per the “New Application” deadline so that it may be noticed.
  4. Please submit another Workshop Application.

Read Property I.D. 24.3.3
Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (8,840 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (850 sq. ft.), Basement/Tuck-under (1,075 sq. ft.), Pool House (685 sq. ft.), Detached Garage (1,010 sq. ft.), Grading, Retaining Walls, Fencing & Walls, Entry Gate/Pilasters, Landscape, Pool/Spa, Tennis Court, Propane Tank

Mr. and Mrs. Read and Architect Douglas Fess attended the meeting.

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. Please submit plans reflecting those changes the Architect, Doug Fess proposed at the Art Jury meeting, which included the elimination of the sixth bedroom from the second floor.
    1. Please make the following changes to the above proposal:
      1. Reduce the size of the roof deck.
      2. Eliminate the vestibule to the second story deck to reduce the amount of building bulk.
      3. Design the deck in such a way that it is integrated with the overall form and detailing of the house.
  2. Increase the articulation on the east façade of the house.
  3. Further reduce the masses on the east façade.
    1. Reduce the plate heights of the projections.
    2. Step the projections down the hill.
  4. Differentiate the massing of the projections on the east façade. In particular, the two northern projections have a uniformity that is counter to the goal of creating a variety of masses. Among other options, consider the following:
    1. Have the projections at different floor elevations.
    2. Create different roof heights.
    3. Create different widths.
  5. Make the architecture more consistent with the images shown in the submitted images booklet.
    1. The Art Jury is in favor of the architecture represented in the image booklet; however, the currently submitted design is not consistent with the submitted images.
    2. The current design’s form and detailing does not reflect a specific genre other than a generic Mediterranean type with rock and tile roof.
  6. Modify the story poles:
    1. To reflect changes that made.
    2. To show the ground level with a contrasting ribbon color.
  7. Please submit another Workshop Application.

CONSTRUCTION SITE SIGNS: Board Meeting of September 20, 2007

GJS Trust Property I.D. 5.1.3
(Shekhter) Temporary Construction Sign
“Thomas J. Taylor Construction, Inc.”           

The Art Jury is recommending APPROVAL of the Temporary Construction Site Sign to the Board of Directors at the September 20, 2007 meeting.

REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:

Bulicek Property I.D. 24.4.4
Preliminary Application: Addition (1,600 sq. ft.), Re-roof, Repaint, Colors & Materials           

The Art Jury DENIED the Preliminary Application with the following comments:

OVERALL COMMENT:

Create a completely new design for the proposed project.

  1. The house already has a strong design character which will be very difficult to change successfully to another character (without virtually redoing the entire house). Instead of changing the architectural type, please work with the existing design using forms and materials that are consistent with the appearance of the existing residence. 
  2. Please incorporate the features of the current architectural appearance of the existing house in the new design. The house has a very strong “Ranch” type architectural form which is not appropriate for a Spanish design. 
    1. The roof has a steep pitch which is inconsistent with a Spanish design.
    2. The proposed dormers are not part of the architectural vocabulary of Spanish design. 
  3. Please create a more understated design with less massive forms that are more in keeping with traditional design components.
    1. The proposed dormer elements are out of scale with the house.
    2. The feature over the front door is too tall and massive for the house.
  4. Ensure that all window forms and architectural detailing are consistent throughout the design on all four sides of the structure.
  5. Submit an image booklet and design statement as required by the Application Checklist. 
  6. Set up an appointment with the Association Planner to discuss design options.
  7. Submit the next application according to the “New” submittal deadline as a Workshop rather than as a Preliminary.

Consistency with the Rancho Santa Fe Protective Covenant

The Art Jury considers that the project as currently proposed is not consistent with the Rancho Santa Fe Protective Covenant. The Preamble of the Rancho Santa Fe Protective Covenant states that “…Rancho Santa Fe is unusually attractive and valuable as a high class place of residence because of the rare quality of its landscape, trees and shrubs…”  The Covenant further goes on to state that “…property owners are most desirous of preserving, continuing and maintaining this character of community and rare landscape features and of upholding the quality of all future architecture and improvements; and of restricting the use, height and bulk of buildings;…”  In the opinion of the Art Jury the project would not maintain the character of the community because the proposed design would not result in quality architecture. 

Paragraph 46 of the Rancho Santa Fe Protective Covenant requires projects “to insure a uniform and reasonably high standard of artistic result and attractiveness.” The Art Jury considers that a “reasonably high standard of artistic result and attractiveness” would be derived from a design that creates a residence that has a consistent appearance and is a good example of the proposed architectural type.

The application proposes additions to the first and second floors and a remodel of the home’s architecture from a “Ranch” type to a “Spanish” type. The Art Jury determined that the existing form of the house with a steeply pitched roof is inappropriate for a Spanish home with a red tile roof. The proposed additions to the second floor are inconsistent with the proposed Spanish look and along with the structure over the front door are too massive. Any additions to the house should take advantage of the natural attributes of the design and work with the architectural vocabulary of the existing architecture.

Substantial changes to a home’s appearance are best reviewed with the Art Jury as a Workshop Application while the project is still at a conceptual level. The workshop process allows the owners and their architects to explore design alternatives prior to the creation of detailed drawings. The Art Jury believes that by working together, the applicant, architect and Art Jury can arrive at an approvable design that achieves many of the applicant’s goals; therefore, the applicant and architect are strongly encouraged to work with Association staff to create a revised conceptual design that can be submitted to the Art Jury as a Workshop Application.    

Clow Property I.D. 34.7.1
Workshop Application: Addition (850 sq. ft.), Detached Garage (1,000 sq. ft.)           

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. In the opinion of the Art Jury, this home represents one of the finer examples of a RSF Ranch style home in our community. Carrying that high quality forward in this remodel should be paramount.
  2. The proposed additions will interfere with large pine trees. The existing large pine trees are outstanding landscape features and must be preserved. Please significantly redesign, and move the additions to avoid damage to these trees.
  3. The existing building is a very good example of ranch style architecture with a strong design character. The proposed additions do not respect or continue the strong architectural character of the existing building. Please redesign the additions to be sympathetic to the architectural character of the existing building.
  4. Proposed garage location will probably require grading and will be in a very prominent location. Please redesign to avoid grading and place this building in a less prominent location.
  5. Submit another Workshop Application.

Country Squire Property I.D. G.10
Building, Inc. As-Built Application: Commercial Signs
(Dodson) “Dolezal Atelier”

The project was continued to the September 25, 2007 meeting.

Finley Property I.D. 9.8.8
Workshop Application: Story Poles, Bulk Check

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. The Art Jury thanked the applicant for revising the building. Please submit a Preliminary Application according to the RSF Association’s “New Submittal” schedule.

Greg Agee Property I.D. 10.4.14
Construction Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (10,428 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (1,209 sq. ft.), Barn (2,167 sq. ft.), Detached Garage (910 sq. ft.), Request to keep 4 horses on 5.36 acres, Grading, Retaining Walls, Fencing & Walls, Entry Gate/Pilasters, Pool/Spa

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. Eliminate the round tower element or make it angular. The round feature is inconsistent with the rest of the design.
  2. Submit a Preliminary Application according to the RSF Association’s “New Submittal” schedule.

Grust Property I.D. 35.4.2
Workshop Application: Detached Garage (1,112 sq. ft.) with

Tuck-under (312 sq. ft.), Two Garden Sheds (240 sq. ft.)

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. In reviewing the original building design it was the Art Jury’s intent to limit building to the less prominent, flatter portions of the site away from the edge of slope (where the buildings would be more prominent). The new building is proposed in a more prominent location; off the flatter existing pad in a sloping area of the site. The proposal therefore extends the developed area of the site (rather than limiting the buildings to a relatively compact pad). This building placement and design is not acceptable to the Art Jury.
  2. Please reduce the bulk and prominence of the building and limit construction to the flatter less prominent portions of the site.
  3. One alternative design could be to revise the existing garage wing now attached to the house by rotating the garage/mudroom through 90 degrees, shortening the garage turnaround and moving the proposed structure to the west. There are other alternatives.
  4. Please verify the limits of development required by the Coastal Commission.
  5. Submit another Workshop Application.

Hampel Property I.D. 21.6.9
Development, LLC Final Application: Addition (375 sq. ft.), Fencing & Walls

This project was continued to the September 25, 2007 Art Jury meeting.

Karam Property I.D. 10.7.13
Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (3,960 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (308 sq. ft.), Basement/Tuck-under (690sq. ft.), Tuck-under Garage (776 sq. ft.), Grading, Retaining Walls

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. Substantially reduce the height of the retaining wall on the north side of the pool to no more than 18 inches.
  2. Submit another Workshop Application to allow the Art Jury to review the revised pool.

Lewin Property I.D. 6.3.1
Preliminary Application: Addition (1,650 sq. ft), Attached Covered Areas (950 sq. ft.), Garage Addition (506 sq. ft.)

The Art Jury APPROVED the Preliminary Application subject to the following conditions:

  1. Contact staff for suggestions to incorporate evergreen trees. The Art Jury noted the majority of new trees are deciduous and suggests more evergreen trees should be added to provide screening all year.
  2. Landscaping is required to screen the project from off-site. If for any reason the final, approved landscape installation does not meet this objective, the Association may require additional plantings, pursuant to Regulatory Code Section 42.0302. Any existing vegetation not shown and approved on the plans as “to be removed” shall be considered “Critical View” landscaping as defined in that regulation. Any trees or landscaping damaged or destroyed during construction or transplanting shall be replaced in-kind with new materials prior to Final Inspection of the landscaping.

Poage Property I.D. 43.2.3
Preliminary Application: Request to keep 3 horses on 5.14 acres, Barn/ Stable (2,638 sq. ft.)

The Art Jury DEFERRED the Preliminary Application with the following comments:

  1. There has been no response to the prior Art Jury request to reduce the bulk of the barn (last submittal 2,550 sq. ft; this submittal 2,638 sq. ft.). Please reduce the bulk of the barn.
  2. The Art Jury is not in favor of the proposed “cart” path. This item should be eliminated and replaced with a footpath.
  3. Remove the “service building” from the setback and relocate to a screened location.
  4. Insufficient information has been provided on the proposed “landscape berm” noted on sheet 5 of the grading plan and sheet L2-1 of the landscaping plan. This berm is unnatural in appearance and is not approved.
  5. Provide fence and gate details.
  6. Reduce the amount of trees proposed for removal to no more than 14 from the 22 trees proposed for removal.

Simpson Property I.D. 2089.55
Preliminary Application: Addition (869 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (38 sq. ft.), Garage Addition (132 sq. ft.), Landscape, Fencing & Walls,  Colors & Materials           

The Art Jury APPROVED the House Remodel and Additions subject to the following conditions:

  1. Provide specifications of the garage door with the Final Application.
  2. The skylights on the northwest facing slope of the roof (facing the street) are not approved.
  3. Landscaping is required to screen the project from off-site. If for any reason the final, approved landscape installation does not meet this objective, the Association may require additional plantings, pursuant to Regulatory Code Section 42.0302. Any existing vegetation not shown and approved on the plans as “to be removed” shall be considered “Critical View” landscaping as defined in that regulation. Any trees or landscaping damaged or destroyed during construction or transplanting shall be replaced in-kind with new materials prior to Final Inspection of the landscaping.

The Art Jury DEFERRED the driveway, fence and landscape plan with the following comments:

Submit the following with a Preliminary Application:

  1. Provide written approval from all abutting properties for fences with less than a 5 ft. separation.
  2. Provide more details on the driveway. The Art Jury is not in favor of the circular pattern in the center and suggests a more understated appearance.
  3. Submit samples of the driveway paving material.
  4. Incorporate additional trees near the residence where the new lawn is proposed.
  5. The Art Jury is not in favor of the proposed wrought iron fencing and suggests peeler pole may be more acceptable. Submit details of any proposed fencing.
  6. Submit a RSF Fire Department approved landscape plan with all preliminary submittals.

Wong Property I.D. 47.2.1
Workshop Application: Story Poles, Bulk Check

The Art Jury made the following comments:

  1. Submit a Preliminary Application according to the RSF Association’s “New Submittal” schedule.

CONSENT 1 AGENDA ITEMS:

Badger Property I.D. F.3
Final Application: Commercial Signs
“The Sterling Company”

The Art Jury is recommending APPROVAL of the Commercial Signs to the Board of Directors. The Art Jury recommendation will be forwarded to the Board at the September 20, 2007 meeting.

Buss (Doan) Property I.D. 12.2.3
Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (9,124 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (831 sq. ft.), Detached Garage (1,144 sq. ft.), Barn (3,780 sq. ft.), Grading, Retaining Walls, Fencing & Walls, Entry Gate/Pilasters, Lighting, Landscape, Pool/Spa           

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