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Present: President Mark McClure, Secretary Jack Queen and Members Ken Markstein and Gail Frazar
Also Present: Building Commissioner Robert Green, Senior Planner Kirk Dakan, Associate Planner Arnold Keene, Consulting Architect Jim Kelley-Markham and Administrative Assistant Jasie Gan
Absent: Vice President Diane Larsen
The Minutes of the June 6, 2006 meeting were approved as written.
Consent Calendar: A motion was made, seconded and passed to approve the consent calendar.
STAFF REPORTS:
1. Architectural Photographs
A meeting will be held after preview on July 10, 2006 to discuss this item.
CONFERENCE ITEMS:
Agee Property I.D.37.3.6
Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (10,686 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (1,238 sq. ft.), Guesthouse (602 sq. ft.), Barn (1,438 sq. ft.), Grading, Retaining Walls, Fencing & Walls, Entry Gate/Pilasters, Pool/Spa, Request to keep 3 horses on 3.02 acres, Propane Tank
Greg Agee and Architect John Jensen attended the meeting.
The Art Jury made the following comments:
- Please simplify the composition of the rear façade; the current design has a multiplicity of forms and projections that are inconsistent with the home’s design.
- Move the covered porch from the great room to the guest house to serve the pool area.
- Please use an alternative form for the covered porches facing the rear yard. The open, wooden trusses are not consistent with the rest of the architecture.
- Please use a muntin pattern on the windows that is consistent throughout the project.
- Please vary the appearance of the chimney tops.
- Please make the slope behind the pool less steep to create a more natural look. The site plan labels the slope as 6:1, but it is steeper than that.
- Please locate a hammerhead turnout in front of the gate.
- Please submit a Preliminary Application.
As a courtesy to the applicant the Art Jury includes the following comments from the Association’s horse keeping consultant, Nancy Preston. These are not Art Jury requirements. If you have any questions regarding these horse keeping comments please call Nancy Preston at (858) 759-7432.
- Ensure that the gravel path from the auto court to the stable is usable by the feed delivery and manure pick-up services to eliminate the need for hauling feed and manure back and forth.
- Have direct access from the feed room to the stall aisle to reduce the hauling of feed and bedding.
- Combine the bathroom with the laundry room to create additional space for connections between the feed room and the aisle. The laundry room is more than large enough to accommodate the small bathroom area.
- Include a dumpster for pick-up of the manure/bedding.
Arwen Show LLC Property I.D 23.3.6.
Workshop Application: Request to keep 14 additional horses on 9.89 acres “L” zoned property (has current permit for 10 horses)
Ms. Liz Keadle attended the meeting.
The Art Jury reviewed the project as described:
- A request to keep a maximum of 24 horses on the property.
- Boarding and training of horses at the facility.
- Two trainers may be working at the facility.
Please proceed to a Final Application. Noticing will be required for this application.
Jordan Property I.D.29.5.2
Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (8,432 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (1,310 sq. ft.), Guesthouse (1,871 sq. ft.)
Mr. Brian Jordan and Designer Brian Darnell attended the meeting.
The Art Jury made the following comments:
Overall comment
The layout and mass of the house, the site plan and the grading are contrary to the size, shape and topography of the property. The project must be substantially redesigned to make the proposal sensitive to the unique characteristics of the site.
Site Planning:
- Reduce the amount of paving. The amount of area devoted to paving is too great relative to the size of the property. Paving reduces the area available for screen landscaping.
- Eliminate the northerly driveway.
- The driveway approach for the remaining southerly driveway should be as shown in Concept #1.
- Please move the driveway gate on the southerly driveway back to be 50 feet from the edge of the pavement on El Zorro Vista.
- Reduce the size of the auto court.
- Create a floor plan which reduces the lot coverage. A house of the proposed size can only be accommodated on a constrained property such as this one through the use of the following recommendations. If the following are not implemented, the amount of structure will need to be dramatically reduced.
- Create a more compact floor plan. The “spread-out” configuration of the current floor plan would only be appropriate for a larger and more level property.
- Take advantage of the sloping property by having some of the uses in full or daylight basement areas.
- Garages for the less-used cars (or all cars) can be located partially or wholly underground.
- Service areas which do not require windows, such as storage, utility and laundry rooms can be below grade without any loss of function.
- Have a second floor for part of the home.
Grading
- Substantially reduce the amount of grading. Grading should only be used where it is necessary for driveway access and to create pad(s) for the structures.
- Reduce grading wherever possible and make the design of the house fit the topography of the property rather than changing the topography to fit the design of the house. The current house design would be more appropriate for a level lot rather than a sloping property.
- Use additional stepping in the house to reflect the topography below it.
- Cut portions of the house into the slope, so that all or part of a building wall is also a retaining wall.
- Further reduce the reliance on filled pads for the house and outdoor living areas.
- Reduce the amount of grading required by the front auto court at the home’s front entrance
- Reduce the court’s size
- Raise the court’s finish elevation
Architecture:
Please do not pursue a rendition of a Greene & Greene architectural type as described in the submitted Design Concept Statement. A reinterpretation of a Greene & Greene structure would not be consistent with paragraph 157 of the Protective Covenant. You are encouraged to consider other design types; however, if you wish to pursue a craftsman design consider a ranch type house that incorporates some craftsman influence.
The current plans fail to create a design consistent with the craftsman design type. The following are some specific recommendations to meet such objectives:
- Please create greater visual interest and architectural character for the building’s form and details.
- Please include greater use of architectural detailing that is consistent with the arts and crafts image. The following comments relate to the specifics of the current design; however, it will be insufficient to address only the following comments – the project must be re-evaluated and revised to make it a good example of the chosen design type.
- Create a front entryway that has a definite arts and crafts influence. The current entry design has a nonspecific appearance that is often proposed for many different types of architecture.
- Please eliminate the rounded room forms, these are not consistent with the proposed craftsman design influence.
- Eliminate the shutters. Shutters are not part of the craftsman design vocabulary.
- Use windows that have a muntin pattern consistent with the craftsman design type.
- Please use real wood rather than the manufactured siding.
- Please submit for another Workshop Application.
Koros Property I.D.2089.50
Workshop Application: Residence (5,950 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (475 sq. ft.), Basement (1,450 sq. ft.), Tuck-under Garage (1,225 sq. ft.), Grading, Fencing & Walls, Entry Gate/Pilasters, Colors & Materials, Pool/Spa, Propane Tank
Architect Doug Fess, Mr. and Mrs. Koros attended the meeting.
The Art Jury made the following comments:
- Eliminate the circular driveway. Substitute a hammerhead turnaround that will satisfy the Fire Department.
- Maximize the amount of landscaping between the driveway and Mimulus.
- Reduce the size of the walled patio off of the master bedroom to increase the amount of screen landscaping on that side of the structure.
- Please eliminate the eastern turret.
- Move the spa away from the slope to reduce the need for fill in that area.
- Submit a Preliminary Application.
RSF Development Property I.D. 14.9.3
Workshop Application: Residence/Garage (9,027 sq. ft.), Basement/Tuck-under (3,314 sq. ft.), Tuck-under Garage (1,186 sq. ft.), Cabana (660 sq. ft.), Guesthouse (977 sq. ft.), Grading
Mr. Mike Cobrda attended the meeting.
The Art Jury repeated the following prior comments as follows:
- The Art Jury requested that further revisions be made to the residence. It is the continuing concern of the Art Jury that the proposed linear building shape does not fit the developable portion of the site in an aesthetically pleasing manner and the design emphasizes the bulk of the building. The bulk of the house should be broken up visually. The pool should be moved to the rear of the residence and the house moved to the south. The building should be revised to provide more articulation in the façade and a new design with a less linear in layout should be used.
- The driveway location/ grading is also a continuing concern to the Art Jury. The revised site plan still maintains the driveway in a location which could impact the root zone of large pine trees on west property line. Please redesign to move development out of the root zone of these trees. (Tree[s] still appear to be effected).
Additionally the Art Jury noted the following:
- The proposed building fills the available building envelope. The resulting largely “rectangular” shape with flatter, plain building elevations is not aesthetically pleasing.
- The rear elevation is long and has little significant variation in building planes. The proposed architectural treatment of this elevation (flat elevation with segments of differing elevations) is not aesthetically pleasing to the Art Jury.
- Less shallow roof pitches should be proposed.
- The massing of the building should be broken up significantly. Changes may include rotating and or pushing back elements. Other options for changing the massing may be explored.
- Plot existing trees. Retain large mature pines. Do not remove existing mature landscaping.
Please Note: Minor adjustments to this proposal while retaining the same initial concept will not be acceptable to the Art Jury
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
Olson Property I.D.21.4.5
Preliminary Application: Residence/Garage (9,178 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (1,466 sq. ft.), Guesthouse (725 sq. ft.), Grading, Retaining Walls, Entry Gate/Pilasters, Pool/Spa
The Art Jury DEFERRED the Preliminary Application with the following comments:
- The project is incomplete. A grading plan shall be submitted in accordance with submission requirements.
- The roof design above master suite is not aesthetically pleasing in the opinion of the Art Jury. It contains unresolved flat and pitched elements and a badly proportioned tower. Please refine the design of this part of the building.
- Recess the guest house four feet further into the grade and the house two feet further into the grade.
Razavi Property I.D. 29.3.4
Columns, Chimneys
The Art Jury DEFERRED the project with the following comments:
- The sample modified column capital is not acceptable aesthetically to the Art Jury. Provide a revised design /sample within 30 days of the date of this letter.
- The chimney design shall match the approved final plan.
As previously noted, column capitals and chimneys have been added to this building without Association approval. Making changes to an approved exterior building design without the approval of the Rancho Santa Fe Art Jury is a violation of the Protective Covenant.
Shera Property I.D.32.12.2
Preliminary Application: Gate House (143 sq. ft.), Entry Gate/Pilasters
The Art Jury DEFERRED the Preliminary Application with the following comments:
- Please submit a revised design along with a Final application that illustrates the following:
- Reduce the plate height of the gate house to no more than eight feet.
- Both wing walls shall be constructed of stone to match the stone on the main residence.
- The northerly wing wall (extending from the gate house) shall be no longer than ten feet.
- Please design the gate so that the top third of the gate has an open pattern.
CONSENT 1 AGENDA ITEMS:
Country Squire Property I.D.G.2, 11 & 12
Building Inc. Final Application: Commercial Sign
The Art Jury is recommending APPROVAL of your Commercial Signs to the Board of Directors. The Art Jury recommendation will be forwarded to the Board at the July 6, 2006 meeting.
Prior to June 27, 2006, please submit a revised photo simulation which shows the wall sign without the hanging sign.
Keitel/McSweeney Property I.D.19.2.8
Family Trust Preliminary Application: Addition (1,422 sq. ft.), Attached Covered Areas (607 sq. ft.), Tuck-under Pool Bath/ Storage (156 sq. ft.), Deck (260 sq. ft.), Grading, Retaining Walls, Fencing & Walls, Landscape, Re-roof, Repaint, Colors & Materials, Pool/Spa, Propane Tank
The Art Jury DEFERRED the Preliminary Application with the following comments:
- Please revise the design to respect the usual 20 ft side yard setback.
- Have more muntins on the windows to be consistent with the proposed design type.
- Please submit a revised stucco color with a more muted tone.
- Submit a RSF Fire Department approved landscape plan with all preliminary submittals.
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